Jon Singer ([info]jonsinger) wrote,
@ 2009-06-29 20:25:00
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Glazes, mostly...
I continue to mess with glazes (in the broad sense), and I am currently pursuing at least 5 tracks:


  1. Low-melting glass (more about this in a later posting).

  2. Lead-free china paint.

  3. Two paths toward the Black Ding glaze, improving on my earlier copy.

  4. Aventurine.

  5. Oilspots.





China Paint

I have a couple friends who are china painters. Seems that china paint (which is essentially the lowest-melting ceramic glaze) was classically made with lots of lead oxide, which melts nicely at low temperatures. Also seems that lead has to go away, because everybody is kinda crazy on the subject. There are now some supposedly leadless china paints, but according to Paul Lewing, some lead shows up when those paints are tested. I could wonder about this; perhaps the tests are showing Bi as Pb? They shouldn’t, but that may not prevent them from doing so.

I am working up some recipes that are seriously unlikely to contain any lead, and we’ll see how far I get. I am not a china painter, btw, and my test objects are very different from real china painting. Here is a recent one, painted onto an ordinary wall-tile that has little speckles, so I can see whether the plain clear version really is transparent (it isn’t, and I will have to reformulate it to obtain more complete melting) —






Black Ding Ware

I am reformulating my version of the Black Ding glaze, bringing it more closely into line with the original, and having the expectable problem: the Song dynasty folks fired their wares for several days; I fire mine for a few hours. My recent versions melt in my kiln; but they don’t have enough time to smooth out properly, and they come out of the firing with dimpled surface texture. I am messing with the formulation in order to make the melt more fluid. There are several possible approaches to this, and I will post about progress from time to time if and as there is any.

The other side of this particular project is that I am also attempting to approximate or imitate the original ingredients. It appears likely that the Song potters made these glazes from dirt and ashes and maybe some rust. The dirt (which I think is described as “Glaze Earth” when it is used in ceramics) is decayed Loessic soil that seems to have blown in off the Taklamakan Desert a few millions of years ago, and blankets a huge area of northern China; in some places it is hundreds of meters deep. My first shot at imitating it is a fairly decent glaze all by itself, so I am feeling encouraged:



The broad stripe down the middle is a mixture of Rutile and Gerstley Borate, which tells me that this tile was fired to cone 10 in reduction, in my little gas kiln. The narrow stripe is iron oxide. I think my next step is to try adding small amounts of wood ash, to see what happens.

It is, I will admit, peevish-making that it takes me at least 10 ingredients to make a mediocre imitation of something the Chinese potters could (and still can) just dig up out of the ground, make into a slurry, and use. Sigh.




Aventurine

Aventurines (see the Lancastrian vase on this page if it is still there, or this piece by Lasse Östman) are crystal glazes, and they want the kind of firing cycle that gives the crystals a chance to grow. This involves (among other things) stalling the kiln for a while during cooling, at some appropriate temperature. Sometimes there are several such “holds”. For certain crystal types it gets even more complicated, but let’s not go there just now.

A crystal firing is very different from my usual cycle, which involves a fairly long hold at peak temperature and no pause at all during cooldown. It is no surprise that I do not obtain great results from aventurine tests. I can, though, get some sense of the character of an aventurine test, and eventually I will get something that looks really promising, at which point I may ask a friend to put a test tile through a proper crystal firing.

I fired two test aventurines last night. One of them did approximately what I expected it to, and would probably be fairly decent if I put it through the right kind of firing, but does not appear to be in any way exceptional.

The other is quite possibly the most astonishing failure I have experienced in 13 years of glaze development.



I was originally going to call this “DragonPox”, but have been gently guided in a different and more temperate direction; it currently stands as “Chocolate Toad”. (I suppose I can use whichever name is appropriate for a particular piece.) Either way it is definitely a keeper, and will probably end up on a few delicately distressing sculptural items.




Oilspots

Oilspot glazes have been around for quite a long time; they are high-iron formulations, generally fired in oxidation, so they are nicely adapted to electric kilns. The process by which the spots form is reasonably well understood, but the description is sufficiently geeky-tweaky and protracted that I would prefer not to go into it here; if you are interested, please send email.

There seems, nowadays, to be a fashion for large spots, which are associated with very thick applications of glaze. I don’t really like that look, so I am working on glazes that are applied in ordinary thickness and develop small-to-medium-size spots, similar to the ones I’ve seen on occasional Song dynasty pieces (for example, this one). My first test glaze fired out the wrong color but was otherwise pleasant, and went from version 0.1 to version 1.0 immediately when I took this test bowl out of the kiln and got a good look at it:



(I only mixed up 100 grams of the test glaze, so I had to paint it onto the bowl with a brush. The thickness, needless to say, was somewhat uneven.)

Because it is not what I was going for, the mere fact that it is a keeper did not stop me from continuing development. Version 0.2 did not fully melt, and I reformulated it; last night I fired tests of versions 0.3 (right side) and 0.4 (left side):



What I think I want is probably about 90% v0.4 and 10% v0.3, applied fairly thinly. I think I will go ahead and mix up a large enough batch to dip things in, as there is a good chance I can make minor corrections on the fly if it becomes necessary.

Once I get this type under control, the next step is to get spots that are more pronounced and are either silvery, like these, or perhaps iridescent if I can engineer that. Thinking about it...




The one orchid I own, which I think is Neofinetia falcata ‘Tama Kongo’, is once again putting out flower buds. (The flowers are fragrant, mostly in the evening.) It does this every year now, despite the fact that I have no clue how to take care of it and no idea if/when it should be repotted or divided or whatever you do with these things. This plant has survived multiple frosts, and is either remarkably hardy or astonishingly stubborn. Maybe both.



I took that with the camera in my phone; apologies for the image quality.

Cheers —
jon


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[info]randomdreams
2009-06-30 04:27 am UTC (link)
I'd like to hear more about what goes into low-temp glazes. I seem to recall that most metal oxides, even of metals that melt at low temps, are pretty high, but I don't know if metal oxides can form eutectic-like compounds.

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Low-temp stuff
[info]jonsinger
2009-06-30 06:38 am UTC (link)
There are several ways to do this. As I mentioned, the original china paints and other overglaze enamels (I hope I'm using that term correctly) were all based on lead oxide.

It is limitedly possible to substitute bismuth for lead, but the behaviors are definitely not identical, and I'm only just beginning to learn how to deal with Bi. (I was using it in some of my earlier attempts at a china paint base, but not in the current series. May try adding some, though, if I can't get the stuff to melt right.)

Boron oxide, all by itself, will melt (at least in thinnish films) at 450° Celsius, and can also be used in various low-melting compositions; but if it gets wet it turns right back into boric acid and dissolves. This is a big problem; china paint that dissolves in water is kinda useless.

A 50-50 mix (that's in mole %; I forget what it is in weight %, but it's easy enough to calculate) of Zinc Oxide and Phosphorus Oxide melts at something like 389 C (IIRC), but it's kinda squirrelly. At least, I haven't been able to get it to work right. This could be because my source of P2O5 is a rather old bottle of aqueous phosphoric acid, which may not be at the strength claimed on the label.

There are some fluoride compositions that melt very low, but I don't wanna go there.

This leaves me with a certain amount of boria, a little sodium, some silica, and a very small amount of alumina. ...Plus a few other things that can have desirable effects, like lowering the melting point, decreasing the surface tension of the melt, or decreasing the solubility of the stuff after it gets fired.

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There are a number of very peculiar melting-point things, some of which appear to involve eutectics and some of which don't. (There is also some question about just exactly what a eutectic is, but let's not go there.)

For example: Tm2O3 melts at 2425° C on its own, but up to a percent or so will happily dissolve in at least one of the versions of china paint that I've made (I forget which one; it was a while back) at 725 or so. In fact, I've only tried a few of the Ln, but I think they all worked, and I'm pretty sure that all of the typical Ln oxides have relatively high melting points (2300 to maybe 2450 or so, IIRC).

I don't think that this is the same kind of thing as salt (mp ~800° C) dissolving in water at room temperature, but perhaps there is some sort of parallel; I'm not really sure.

Cheers —
jon

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[info]jackwilliambell
2009-06-30 04:35 am UTC (link)
Aventurine! What a wonderful name!

And it sounds like it was an adventure to play with it. If only my failures would have such serendipitous results.

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[info]jonsinger
2009-06-30 06:06 am UTC (link)
I think the original is an Italian glass, but don't quote me — I'm working from memory, and it has been a while.

It's a trip to play with, but I really need to fire some of the stuff the right way. Mine are crap compared with The Real Thing, and I'm convinced that almost all of the difference is in the firing cycle. (Mind you, I'm talking about actual aventurines here, not Chocolate Toad or Dragonpox, or whatever I end up calling that stuff.)

Best —
jon

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[info]neogrammarian
2009-06-30 06:40 am UTC (link)
The oilspots are pretty. I think "chocolate toad" is prettier if you used the Latin "bufo"- most toads are brown, after all, even when they change colors. Your emphasis that the orchid grows regardless of care has me considering orchids again.

Finally- only have about 8 photos from Antwerp and Oxford up here but thought you might like to see what I'm seeing. My babbling about the manuscripts so far is here and there. (Which I only mention b/c the tone of your post reminded me a good bit of the tone of My posts!)

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[info]jonsinger
2009-06-30 04:25 pm UTC (link)
I have to agree that "toad" is maybe not the prettiest word in the language, though the critters themselves are certainly cute. I s'pose I could call it "Bufo Boffo". (Ahem.) OTOH, it still looks like Dragon Pox to me.

Nice photos! I find CurvesLines and LinesTextures particularly pleasant, out of that set; going a bit further afield, LaForetdel'eau is glorious, and Circumferences3 is also lovely.

Best —
jon

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[info]neogrammarian
2009-06-30 04:29 pm UTC (link)
Thank you- the water photos are several years old now- (and indeed, not all my good stuff is up there- much is under a password- let me know if you've got a flickr acct and I can add you). I do enjoy contrasting lines and textures.

I think you would have enjoyed all of the printing presses at the Plantin-Moretus museum quite a lot- all original, with original type, forms, etc. Really fantastic in terms of history-of-technology.

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[info]jonsinger
2009-06-30 05:38 pm UTC (link)
Ahhh. I do, indeed, have a flickr account. Lemme see if I can figure out what my user ID is... (My screen name seems to be jon singer; does that work?)

I bet those presses are just wonderful. Sigh.

Hope you are continuing to have a wonderful time, enforced touristic excursions to the contrary notwithstanding.

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[info]neogrammarian
2009-06-30 05:46 pm UTC (link)
Excellent- I've added you as a contact, so when you're logged in you should be able to see all my pix- snapshots and nice shots.

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[info]jonsinger
2009-07-02 04:17 am UTC (link)
Thanks!
j

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[info]skylarker
2009-06-30 05:30 pm UTC (link)
I love the 'chocolate toad' appelation. It suits the effect perfectly.

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[info]jonsinger
2009-06-30 05:38 pm UTC (link)
Dunnit just? (Though I think "Dragon Pox" is almost as close.)

Cheers —
jon

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[info]skylarker
2009-06-30 07:25 pm UTC (link)
I'd go for 'Dragon Pox' if it were in more dragony colors. :)

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[info]jonsinger
2009-07-01 01:36 pm UTC (link)
In the photograph, of course, the color is fungible. See my response to [info]u_must_b_joking just below.

I could probably make the glaze itself a bit greener by putting some chromium oxide in it, and that might be worth a try.

Best —
jon

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[info]skylarker
2009-07-01 01:59 pm UTC (link)
Yes; purple works. :)
Or a greener or more golden tone would be very dragonish.

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[info]jonsinger
2009-07-02 04:19 am UTC (link)
Yes. Possibly slightly bluish or iridescent green, though that cannot really be captured in a single photo.

I will think about how to modify the color of the actual glaze; if I get a chance to fire more tests, I will post about them here if they are worth mentioning.

Cheers & thanks —
jon

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Chocolate toad
[info]u_must_b_joking
2009-06-30 02:10 pm UTC (link)
Zow.... as Catherine would say. I am very, very impressed.

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Re: Chocolate toad
[info]jonsinger
2009-06-30 03:56 pm UTC (link)
It's extremely delicate (those really are bubbles, and the walls are very thin), but I may be able to use it on something sculptural at some point. A careful photo might also make good wallpaper, especially in some other color, like maybe purple...



Ahem.
j

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Re: Chocolate toad
[info]u_must_b_joking
2009-07-01 04:32 am UTC (link)
V. nice. Looks like something went Horribly Awry at Hogwarts.

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Re: Chocolate toad
[info]jonsinger
2009-07-01 01:37 pm UTC (link)
Teehee. True thing.

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[info]blucrowlaughing
2009-06-30 04:38 pm UTC (link)
your china paint test remind me more of maiolica then china paints.

the Black Ding Ware glaze is gorgeous and makes me miss turning out wheel pieces to showcase a gaze on.

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[info]jonsinger
2009-06-30 05:56 pm UTC (link)
Hi!

A) I'm firing these at cone 016 or so (725° C), whereas maiolica seems to be fired somewhat higher, at least in the US — one mention I saw on Clayart in a quick search said things about 06. Still, that's quite interesting. At some point, when there's time, I may try taking one of those test tiles over 800 degrees, and we'll see what happens. (The colors would probably mutate a bit, and I would hope that the plain stuff would seriously melt to a clear glass.)

B) That test tile is just the Glaze Earth substitute; it's kinda distantly related to Russet Ding, but would need to have a more crystalline surface to be a good match. My original copy of the Black Ding glaze actually looks about like this:



C) I probably shouldn't ask, but what prevents you from doing wheel work at this time?

Best —
jon

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[info]light_of_summer
2009-07-01 03:59 am UTC (link)
That crystal glaze "failure" is very bizarre! What sort of "delicately distressing" sculpture did you have in mind?

It occurs to me to wonder what it would look like if the bubbles were purposely popped. Quite possibly hideous, but I do wonder!

I like the little oilspots.

Cheers!

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[info]jonsinger
2009-07-01 01:45 pm UTC (link)
A) Mostly "barfing toad" and "barfing dragon" teapots, but there's room for innovation. (Ahem.)

B) It would be interesting, but the edges would probably be sharp and a bit dangerous. You would want to be very careful around the stuff, if you didn't have a way to clean it up. Still, I may fire another test so I can see; it's definitely an interesting idea.

C) Me, too. Many people who do oilspots these days are deliberately going for really large ones, which don't do it for me; they insist that you have to put the glaze on thick (like, a quarter of an inch!). I don't mind spots that are several mm across, especially if they are bright and silvery and have a bit of separation (still trying to figure out how to get that look, btw), but that's about as far as I care to get.

Cheers &#!51;
j

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[info]eub
2009-07-01 09:07 am UTC (link)
What gas is evolved to form the bubbles of the Toad, do you know?

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Bubble Contents
[info]jonsinger
2009-07-01 01:38 pm UTC (link)
Should be almost entirely CO2 — several of the ingredients in the recipe are carbonates, and I am not aware of any other things in there that give off gases. Might be a wee bit of sulfur someplace, but not much.

Cheers —
jon

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[info]vcmw
2009-07-01 02:38 pm UTC (link)
I like the bubbly toad-dragon effect very much. It reminds me a little bit of not-very-eroded lava rock, but it doesn't have the green sparkles in it that I remember from lava-rock beach pebbles.

Which, of course, causes me to wonder how it would look with intermittent light-green-yellow sparkles.

(There was this one beach in Hawai'i that was all smooth round black lava rocks - no sharp edges but pocked a bit - and they had little green crystal clumps in them.)

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[info]jonsinger
2009-07-02 04:22 am UTC (link)
Hi!

I don't have time to put speckles into the photo, but I will certainly think about whether there might be a way to cause the glaze to fire out that way. (It probably isn't possible without making a huge change in the character of the stuff; but you never know if you don't try.)

The lava sounds really cool! I should probably try to find out what those green crystals are...

Best —
jon

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